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Coolant Flush

The cooling system needs to be flushed every now and then to prevent corrosion in the engine and radiator. While ethylene glycol doesn't break down, the additives used to keep water from attacking and corroding metal will wear down. The organic acid additive coolant used by VW should be good for ~5 years/150,000 miles.

In my case, I flushed the system to switch from G12 to Prestone Extended Life - more info here.

Part Information & Sources:

Volkswagen G12 coolant - ~$20/gallon
Prestone Extended Life coolant - ~$8/gallon
Distilled water (preferably reverse-osmosis/deionized water) - 3 gallons

Tools Needed:

  • 19mm socket
  • Torque wrench

Draining coolant:

  1. Start by propping up the car on ramps or jack stands.
  2. Get under the car and remove the noise insulation panel (belly pan).
  3. Remove the driver side bumper panel to get access to the radiator drain (it just pops out). If there is a flexible piece of plastic in the way, move it aside to access the drain valve. (illustration)
  4. Remove the coolant tank cap.
  5. Attach a hose to the radiator drain leading to a collection container. Open the drain valve, allow to drain, and close the valve. (illustration)
  6. Once the radiator is drained, it's time to drain the engine block. Look under the car and find the water pump drain plug - it's a large 19mm bolt. Open up the bolt, and have a container ready to catch the draining coolant. Clean off the bolt, reinstall and tighten to 22 ft-lbs/30 N-m. (illustration)

Flushing the system:

  1. The cooling system needs to be bled while refilling to get air out of the coolant passages. Look for two rubber hoses covered by a black plastic sheath to the right of the battery. Pull down the sheath (it's rather annoying to work with) and the hoses should be exposed. Unclamp the left hose with the white mark surrounding a hole in the hose. Pull the hose off the connector until the hole is exposed. (illustration)
  2. Unscrew the coolant tank and set it as upright as possible - this sets the coolant level above the hose bleeding level. (illustration)
  3. Set the interior temperature control to maximum heat - this allows coolant to flow through the heater core.
  4. Fill the system with water until the bleed hole begins to seep.
  5. Push the bleed hose back onto the connector, close the coolant tank cap, and start the engine.
  6. Let the engine run for a few minutes until the lower coolant hose becomes hot (until the thermostat opens), and then let it run for a few more minutes. You can speed this up by running the engine at 1800-2200 rpm.
  7. Shut down the engine. You'll need to wait a while (up to an hour or two) for the engine to cool down before you can drain and refill the system. The issue here is that draining the coolant soon after shutting down the engine leaves the engine hot. If the system is refilled with fresh cold coolant, there is a large temperature differential and the block may warp or crack. It's unlikely, but possible. Waiting a few hours for the engine to cool down is one way to get around this. The other is to simply heat up the replacement coolant before adding it to the system - I'm impatient, so this is what I usually do.
  8. This cycle can be repeated as much as you'd like - if the old coolant was clean and free of contamination, I just flush with water once. If I'm working on an old car that has scale and gunk in the cooling system, I flush until the water leaving the system is as pure as when it went in.

Refilling the system:

  1. Drain the system as before.
  2. Mix up a batch of coolant - use a 1:1 mix ratio of water and coolant. Note that you may need to have a bit more coolant in the mix to compensate for the water that remains in the engine block (even after opening up the radiator and water pump drains).
  3. Pull out the bleeder hose and refill the system until coolant seeps out.
  4. Reseat the bleeder hose, clamp it, and replace the plastic sheath.
  5. Recap the coolant tank and reinstall it.
  6. Run the engine until the lower coolant hose is hot again. The coolant level can drop a bit as air is bled out of the system. Add coolant until it's at the high mark on the tank if needed.

Done! Check for leaks, then go for a drive...

Comments:

  • My passat blows cold air when the heat control is on hot, There is flow coming in and out of heater core, Temp gage is working fine also, Car is not over heating either, Please someone let me know Anything that I might try Thanks
    John Ohio, USA - Oct 21, 2008 @ 8:37 am
  • i fix my heater.. i follow these step like 3 time and it didnt work. my heater core was clogged, i disconnected both of the bleed hole the goes in and out the heater core as shown in the pic above and water pressure both holes 5 min each non stop and connected anything and ran it with water instend of antifrezze in the mean while and it work.. ppl with heater problems should try this!
    gus - Oct 20, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
  • maybe your coolant got like mud beacause you put the wrong antifreeze, your suppose to use the orange kind like GM vehicles DexCool you can buy that at autozone
    usa beaner - Oct 6, 2008 @ 10:45 am
  • I had a 2002 Passat 1.8T, recently I had my Coolant check, and I was told that the coolant dirty and like mud. I'd as the Dealer how did this happen, I got my answer I DON'T KNOW... Any Idea guy's how did this happen? thank.
    By the way I only got 108K.
    Rolando (CANADA) - Jul 18, 2008 @ 8:10 am
  • 2003 Passat 1.8 T. Flush went well and followed procedure step by step. Problem: Interior heating system no longer blows heated air. Any help out there?
    Ron
    Ron Concord MA - Jun 30, 2008 @ 2:44 pm
  • my car doesnt work
    ivan - Jun 19, 2008 @ 11:03 am
  • my car doesnt work
    ivan pilsen - Jun 19, 2008 @ 11:03 am
  • Valuable site. Glad I stumbled across it. Should help with my Passat lack of heating following t'stat cx. Thanks all
    Steve (UK) - Mar 11, 2008 @ 3:39 pm
  • I had a coolant drain and fill done at a local oil change(mistake) place on my 2002 Passat 2.8 4motion. I now have no heat, I followed your procedures for refilling and bleeding, till coolant seeped out of bleed hole. Still no heat, any suggestions? I had nuclear heat until this drain and fill. Thanks
    Mike USA - Dec 1, 2007 @ 11:22 am
  • Chris USA: Leave your personal comments to yourself. G12 is far more trouble than it's worth. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
    Don USA - Oct 14, 2007 @ 10:37 am
  • My Oil Cooler just failed on my 2000 Passat, 7 years and 79,000 miles. As a result that mixed Oil with Coolant and I have a big mess to clean up. I got the crankcase clean of radiator fluid, this site has been a great help in getting the gunk out of the cooling system, many thanks for the detail and pictures, better than my Haynes repair book.
    Mark K, USA - Sep 12, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
  • The fact that you advocate switching away from G12 makes this site a worthless pile. Good Luck with sub par cooling.
    Chris USA - Jul 25, 2007 @ 11:43 am
  • I have 2000 Passat need to know where the thermostat is located please help
    bone - Jun 5, 2007 @ 9:15 pm
  • Thanks for the great write-ups; they've been very helpful.

    My '02 Passat (1.8T, AWM) has been overheating lately. I replaced the temp. sensor, the expansion tank/cap, thermostat, and now finally the water pump. After the latter, I thought I finally fixed it because I was able to drive longer than I had earlier w/o the temp gauge budging beyond normal (190 degs). But then today it went up and started boiling again. I think I was just lucky yesterday because I had also replaced all the coolant w/ brand new stuff.

    So what could the problem be at this point?
    Mark - May 19, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
  • Where do I begin? First, it would be great to see your reply's to the questions posted in the comments field. Second, do you know of a manual for a 93 Passat GLX? I've looked almost everywhere. And third, the reason for which I came across your site, I can't find the drain for the radiator on my 93 Passat GLX Wagon.
    Eric (Montana) - Apr 25, 2006 @ 4:26 pm
  • i have replaced the thermostat and flushed the system but the thermostat doesn`t seem to be opening,the bottom hose never heats up.can you suggest why?PLEASE
    britny,usa - Sep 26, 2005 @ 9:30 pm
  • thank you i found my thermostat,it seems like it is not opening,what would cause that
    britny,usa - Sep 25, 2005 @ 4:02 pm
  • i have a 2000 passat that needs a new thermostat and i am new to this car can you tell where to locate it?please
    britny,usa - Sep 25, 2005 @ 2:08 pm
  • Hi,

    great site, thanks.

    The Owner's manual for my 2001 Passat says the the coolant system is sealed and the
    coolant does not need to be replaced. So why flush it?

    Thanks,
    Gajanan
    Gajanan Joshi - Apr 21, 2005 @ 2:29 pm
  • will this work on a 1993 passat as well?
    chris - Mar 29, 2005 @ 8:22 pm
  • Thanks for the writeup!
    slofizz - Feb 27, 2005 @ 11:50 am
  • I found loosening the hose going onto the water pipe easier than locating and undoing the bleed hole. Note: The bleed hole arrangement on my radiator (new @ 2004) was different to the illustration.
    Ken - Feb 19, 2005 @ 10:14 am
  • This may be an obvious question...but to refill the system for the flush and final fill. Do you do this through the recovery tank?
    Kassel - Feb 13, 2005 @ 8:46 pm
  • To ensure at least 50/50 mix regardless of water left over from flushing I add to first 50%-60% of the stated cooling system capacity in pure undiluted coolant, then add water to complete the fill.
    J - Jan 5, 2005 @ 10:47 pm
  • I now have come across your reasons. My apologies.
    - Jan 5, 2005 @ 9:31 pm
  • Other than cost, what led you to change from the G12? I know if the two get mixed (avoided by a complete flush) clumping and just big problems supposedly occur. What conclusion did you come to in order to assure yourself the change over was proper?

    Thanks for the site too. Always a great help.

    98 AEB B5 1.8T Manual Variant
    Stephen - Jan 5, 2005 @ 9:22 pm

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